But also… Trail running podcast

Where we discuss the idiocy that is ultra running

Episodes

Oct 16, 2026

50 min

Hosts Celeste and Danielle recount a last-minute birthday trip to Acadia National Park, camping in the car and tackling multiple trails in 24 hours. Highlights include a pre-dawn hike to watch sunrise from Cadillac Mountain, cliff and loop hikes like Gorham and Great Head, and the scramble to see Bubble Rock at Jordan Pond.They share funny mishaps (slips, close calls, an almond joke), practical tips about trail distances, parking/permits, coffee at the summit, and praise for perfect October weather—concluding that the trip was exhausting but unforgettable.

Oct 16, 2026

50 min

Oct 2, 2026

1 hr 1 min

Host Celeste Fong talks with Ray Pinney about starting trail running later in life, tackling 50-mile races and 100+ mile events, and finding purpose and community through ultras.
They discuss injuries and recovery, memorable races like Rim-to-Rim-to-Rim and the Race for the Ages, the mental highs and lows of ultra running, and how the trail community supports and inspires people of all ages.

Oct 2, 2026

1 hr 1 min

Sep 25, 2026

53 min

Host Celeste Fong and guest Greg Smith recount his brutal Mogollon Monster 100‑mile race in Arizona — battling dehydration, altitude sickness, splitting headaches, and a relentless desert climb over roughly 36 hours.
They reflect on the pressure of destination races, the lifeline of family crewing (Greg's dad and grandpa), mental problem‑solving in ultras, and the lessons he’ll use for future high‑altitude races.

Sep 25, 2026

53 min

Sep 4, 2026

1 hr 35 min

Hosts Celeste Fong, John Calabrese, and Ben Nalette recount their chaotic weekend at the Jigger Johnson 100-mile race in New Hampshire: long drives, camp chaos, bizarre aid-station encounters, and a brutal 15-hour stretch that led to a DNF. Along the way they bond over bad movies, messy stomach issues, trail culture, race logistics, and why they keep coming back for more.
Expect adult language, raw humor, and candid takes on ultrarunning life from the back of the pack.

Sep 4, 2026

1 hr 35 min

Aug 28, 2026

1 hr 13 min

Host Celeste Fong sits down with Taylor Verville and her crew—Marcus, Steve, and Mike—to relive the brutal and beautiful Jigger Johnson 100-mile race. They break down the technical terrain, logistics, pacer strategy, and the unexpected chaos that defined the event.
From dramatic road closures and tracker failures to dirt naps, fueling hacks, and a late-night finish, this episode captures the grit, strategy, and camaraderie behind one of New England’s toughest ultras.

Aug 28, 2026

1 hr 13 min

Aug 15, 2026

1 hr 15 min

Celeste Fong talks with TJ, who shares his raw, funny and adult-only journey from extreme weight loss to becoming an ultra runner. They dig into his first races, how he fell in love with ultra-distance events, and why he prefers loops and self-supported runs.
The episode is full of candid race stories, training quirks, gritty race-day details, and the tight-knit trail community that keeps them coming back — plus plenty of humor, profanity, and real talk about fueling, injuries, and life changes along the way.

Aug 15, 2026

1 hr 15 min

Aug 13, 2026

47 min

Hosts Celeste and Craig recap their experience at Anchor Down Ultra, a night-start loop race at Colt State Park that was defined by extreme heat and suffocating humidity. They describe the course, pacing strategies, aid-station realities, high DNF numbers, and the tight-knit, old-school ultrarunning community that keeps drawing them back.
The episode mixes gritty race details with personal moments — ice bandanas, fueling choices, mental and physical limits, finishing tallies, and the camaraderie, chaos, and humor that made a terrible race still feel worth returning to next year.

Aug 13, 2026

47 min

Jul 31, 2026

49 min

Host Celeste Fong welcomes Jess Roussell to discuss her emotional and hard-earned finish at Notchview reaching her 100-mile goal. They cover the mental battles of ultra running, the importance of crew and community, and practical race strategies like nutrition and pacing.
Jess also shares her coaching work, future ambitions (including Leadville), and the small joys that make endurance racing meaningful—from camping and post-race blues to glitter, friendships, and mashed potatoes.

Jul 31, 2026

49 min

Jul 17, 2026

33 min

Celeste Fong and friends take microphones on the trails at the Notchview event for a round of candid conversation: nicknames, bingo cards, glittered runners, and night-loop antics.
Expect laugh-out-loud moments, trail-side support, and the chaotic joy of midnight hills and headlamp mishaps as the group navigates community, competition, and constant banter.

Jul 17, 2026

33 min

Jul 10, 2026

58 min

Host Celeste Fong talks with guest Greg Smith about his DNF at the Manitou's 50-mile race after severe food poisoning, and the physical and emotional aftermath.
They discuss coping with embarrassment, confronting fears, race nutrition, training mindset, and using a DNF as fuel for future goals.

Jul 10, 2026

58 min

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